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Reality

An Interruption to Normal Programming

TV with this message on it: "Anyone who believes exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist."
  • Sally Hett

    Sally Hett

    WEALL Aotearoa

    Sally is the Knowledge and Engagement Lead at WEAll Aotearoa. Her background is social policy research, having led research at the McGuinness Institute and Nicholson Consulting, advised the National Mental Health and Addiction Inquiry, and run cross government GovTech initiatives.

  • Alistair Woodward

    Alastair Woodward

    University of Auckland

    Professor Alistair Woodward is a public health doctor and epidemiologist at the University of Auckland. He has a close interest in the influence of environments on human health, ranging from the impacts of urban design to global climate change. He contributed to the last four assessment reports of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

  • Catherine Knight

    Catherine Knight

    Massey University/Author

    Dr Catherine Knight is a public policy analyst and an Honorary Research Associate at Massey University. She is an award winning author of several acclaimed books including Beyond Manapouri: 50 years of environmental politics in New Zealand and An Uncommon Land. She has an advocate for post-growth and wellbeing economies and writes on these topics on Newsroom, The Spinoff and on Substack.

  • Robert McLachlan

    Robert McLachlan

    Massey University

    Professor of Applied Mathematics at Massey University. Member of the Planetary Limits Academic Network and Fellow of the Royal Society Te Apārangi. Robert is an advocate for climate-safe energy and transport systems.

  • Gareth Hughes

    Gareth Hughes

    WEALL Aotearoa

    Gareth is the Director of WEAll Aotearoa. He is an author, political commentator for Radio New Zealand and serves in governance roles. He was a Member of Parliament for over a decade where he served as the Chairperson of the Social Services and Community Select Committee and before that was a climate campaigner at Greenpeace.

  • Mike Joy

    Mike Joy

    Victoria University of Wellington

    Dr Mike Joy MSc, PhD (Ecology) is a Senior Research Fellow and Lecturer in Environmental Science at Victoria University of Wellington. Research includes ecological modelling, freshwater bioassessment, environmental policy, biophysical limits to growth and the role of energy in society.

    Recipient of numerous awards including the Callaghan Medal for science communication from the Royal Society of New Zealand 2023.

  • Ganesh Ahirao

    Ganesh R. Ahirao

    Independent economist

    Dr Ganesh R. Ahirao is an economist, delivering insights from the perspective of whakapapa, whenua, and whai hua (value). His commentary centres on natural, physical, and community resources, as distinct from financial accounts. Formerly Chair of the Productivity Commission, Ganesh was previously Research Director at BERL and academic roles at Victoria University. He currently holds a range of voluntary governance positions in charitable and for-purpose organisations.

  • Anne Bardsley

    Anne Bardsley

    Complex Conversations Lab, University of Auckland

    Dr Anne Bardsley (MNZM) is Co-Director of the Complex Conversations Lab, University of Auckland. Anne’s recent workexplores the use of deliberative democracy to enhance collective decision-making, including working with the Computational Democracy Project to test a geo-located version of Pol.is for nationwide agenda setting. Anne was recognised as a Member of the NZ Order of Merit for her contributions to science and the state in 2020.

  • Huhana Smith

    Huhana Smith

    Massey University
    Ngāti Tukorehe, Rauakawa ki te Tonga

    Professor Huhana Smith (College of Creative Arts, Massey University) co-leads multidisciplinary, Māori-led collaborations for freshwater, wetlands/saltmarshes, and climate change for Te Ūpoko o te Ika/lower North Island and co-chairs the Joint Action Climate Committee for the Manawatu Region. She uses indigenous research methods, artistic design, scientific data and mapping technologies to expand solutions for te taiao enhancement.

  • Morgan Edwards

    Morgan Edwards

    University of Otago

    Morgan is a PhD student at the University of Otago. He is researching the mechanics of government finance in New Zealand which aims to show how government spending actually works.

  • Kayla Kingdon-Bebb

    Kayla Kingdon-Bebb

    WWF-New Zealand

    Dr Kayla Kingdon-Bebb joined WWF-New Zealand as CEO in March 2023, having previously served as Director of Policy at the Department of Conservation. She is an experienced environmental policy leader, manager, and advocate and has led collaborative work programmes on a wide range of environmental policy issues. Kayla is also a subject-matter specialist in Treaty law.

  • Cathrine Dyer

    Cathrine Dyer

    Victoria University of Wellington

    Dr Cathrine Dyer is a Lecturer in Climate Change at Victoria University of Wellington specialising in environmental politics and international climate change policy. Cathrine has an academic background in development studies with a strong focus on climate justice and the dynamics of climate policy underreactions. Cathrine is a climate science and policy commentator and regular guest on Bernard Hickey’s The Hoon podcast.

  • Hillmaré Schulze

    Hillmarè Schulze

    BERL

    Hillmarè is the owner and Chief Economist at BERL, with over 30 years’ experience across New Zealand, the Pacific, and Africa.

    She has advised the World Bank, governments, Māori-owned and private entities, bringing deep expertise in trade, sector dynamics, and translating complex, cross-cultural economic issues into practical strategy for diverse industries and policy environments globally.

  • James Renwick

    James Renwick

    Victoria University of Wellington

    Professor James Renwick is a climate researcher of long standing. He has served as a lead author for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) over the last 20 years, was a Climate Change Commissioner 2019-2024, and was awarded the Prime Minister’s 2018 prize for Science Communication.

  • Jonathan Boston

    Jonathan Boston

    Victoria University of Wellington

    Jonathan Boston, ONZM, is Emeritus Professor of Public Policy in the School of Government at Te Herenga Waka – Victoria University of Wellington. His research interests include climate change policy and anticipatory governance. Recent books include A Radically Different Planet: Preparing for Climate Change (BWB, 2024).

Human ingenuity is boundless, but no amount of ingenuity will make a finite planet infinite.

Dr Catherine Knight

Anyone who believes exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist.

Economist Kenneth Boulding

We have an economic system that is unravelling the web of life it depends on by subsidising pollution, rewarding short-term extraction and discounting the future.

Professor Nathalie Seddon

Without a healthy biosphere, there is no stable economy.

Professor Nathalie Seddon

9:00 – 9:30 am

Arrival/registration

9:30 – 9:45 am

Welcome – why we are here

Kaitoro/MC Professor Huhana Smith
(Massey University)

9:45 – 10:00 am

Deliberative democracy 101

Dr Cathrine Dyer (Victoria University of Wellington)
and Dr Anne Bardsley (Auckland University)

01

10:00 – 10:45 am

Expert Talks Session 01

Series of lightning talks from our experts

10:00 – 10:15 am

Confronting the polycrisis

Dr Mike Joy
(Victoria University of Wellington)

10:15 – 10:30 am

How climate change will shape our future

Professor James Renwick
(Victoria University of Wellington)

10:30 – 10:45 am

The biodiversity crisis

Dr Kayla Kingdon-Bebb
(Chief Executive, WWF-New Zealand)

10:45 – 11:15 am

Morning tea break

02

11:15 – 12:45 am

Expert Talks Session 02

Series of lightning talks from our experts

11:15 – 11:30 am

Energy realities

Distinguished Professor Robert McLachan
(Massey University)

11:30 – 11:45 am

Unleashing public finance

Dr Ganesh Ahirao and Morgan Edwards (University of Otago)

11:45 – 12:00 pm

Trade in an unstable future

Hillmare Schulze
(BERL)

12:00 – 12:15 pm

The uninsurable future

Emeritus Professor Jonathan Boston
(Victoria University of Wellington)

12:15 – 12:30 pm

National food security

Dr Catherine Knight
(Massey University)

12:30 – 12:45 pm

Public health in a degrading biosphere

Professor Alistair Woodward
(Auckland University)

12:45 – 1:00 pm

Reflections on the morning

Dr Huhana Smith

1:00 – 2:00 pm

Lunch and networking

2:00 – 3:40 pm

Deliberative democracy in practice

A participatory session applying deliberative democracy tools and processes, led by Dr Anne Bardsley and Dr Cathrine Dyer

3:40 – 4:55 pm

Translating reality into action

A participatory session to discuss how to translate these realities into collective action, facilitated by Gareth Hughes and Sally Hett
(Wellbeing Economy Alliance Aotearoa)

4:55 – 5:00 pm

Closing

Dr Huhana Smith

5:30 – 8:30 pm

Drinks, dinner and conviviality at a local eatery (self-funded)